A Tale of Two Big Three’s

I ran across the following quote today, “It’s funny how the Celtics big 3 area is “commended” for 1 championship in 6 years but America was ready to pounce on the Miami Heat for 3 straight Finals trips and 1 championship in 3 years had they lost to the Spurs. Double standard much?”

Of course, being a LeBron fan, I loved it.

Full disclosure: I’ve never been a Garnett fan. He seems like a punk. And Pierce seems like he’s stoned most of the time.

Also, pretty bad day to be Rajon Rondo, no?

5 thoughts on “A Tale of Two Big Three’s”

  1. Would you commend a group of arrogant pricks who did something that wasn’t beyond their skill set? Or would you be more apt to commend a group of professionals who didn’t hold press conferences, didn’t guarantee anything, and went about their business the same as they did when they played on opposing ball clubs?

    I think that Ray Allen is a likable guy, Paul Pierce is respectable for his commitment to Boston through thick and thin as was KG in Minnesota. They all played for under performing teams for well over a decade and wanted to make one last go at it. A lot like Gary Payton, Karl Malone, Shaq, Kobe, Rick Fox, Robert Horry, etc. at the end of Malone and Payton’s careers.

    The difference here isn’t that people can’t appreciate the athleticism in Miami. I think any knowledgeable sports fan can agree that Wade, Bosh and James are very talented, and there was nothing wrong with them joining forces. That being said, when you become arrogant little pricks and talk about 7+ championships and choke on the first chance, squeeze by on the second dance and win their first ring together. By the time they got to their third dance, I think the “haters” could appreciate their run a bit more. That being said the big three quickly were held together by their role players unlike Boston whose Big 3 are the only reason they won their Championship and made it back for a second dance. That being said, Rondo did come into his own while playing among the Big 3, much like Chalmers.

    KG is KG much like any other player, they do things that don’t exactly sit well with everyone. That being said, KG stayed out of the way of the law and hardly got into trouble by the league. He has represented the US on at least two times bringing home the gold both times (Atlanta and Sydney). He does have a bit of a chirping issues, but that’s something most guys in the league do. Pierce is almost as stoned as T-Mac was during his career. They both look like they jam to Bob Marley before tip off…and maybe that’s why Pierce isn’t known for any thunderous dunks but a smooth jumper.

    Rondo will hate life in Boston until they can start building around him, but playing alongside the Big 3 in Boston is the best thing that could have ever happened to him. A lot like playing for Larry Brown was the best thing that ever happened to Chauncy Billups.

    I’ll always commend those who come together, shut their mouths and work hard. But those who jaw jack, regardless of how good they are, wont ever get an ounce of praise from me. At some point it goes beyond athleticism, and more about who the players are that make it easier to crucify or praise a team. It also has to do with the city and the fan base. Philadelphia fans are about as fair weather as they come, but Miami puts them to shame with how terrible they are.

    The perfect storm to hate on the Heat was created by the decision, plus the arrogant party proclaiming themselves champs long before it happened, plus a terrible fan base…it makes it very easy to hate them.

    On the other hand, while Boston fans may be obnoxious, they are there through it all. The players play for the city, they love the city, they stay out of the spotlight, and got things done. Miami is none of that, did none of that and it’s exactly why it’s so easy to hate the Heat and appreciate Boston.

  2. It’s all about expectations.

    People expected the Heat to crush all comers. (Which they have, 3 Finals appearances, 2 Championships, and a 27 game winning streak)

    It didn’t seem fair when the Heat teamed up, it didn’t seem right. Everyone was giving up on their chance at individual success in pursuit of a team goal… Best Spin – Worst Spin, they were taking the easy path to the top.

    It was sorta like the Heat were riding a snowmobile to the summit of Everest… sure they’d get to the top, but would they have earned it?

    So people expected them to cruise and when they didn’t it was alarming and for some validating.

    But the Celtics… it’s hard to remember this now, six years later… but Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett were already supposed to be has beens when that team came together.

    It had already been decided that nothing was coming from their careers other then late Playoff exits and early summer vacations.

    When they joined forces with Pierce in Boston, then it got interesting… everyone wondered could they win it? Would it work, did they have anything left in their tanks.

    That’s pretty much been the story of Boston from day one. Can they do it? Are they the favorites to win it now? Can they blend, do they have it?

    People didn’t really know if Boston would work, they expected Miami to work. They knew that all that talent collecting in South Beach was trouble for the rest of the league.

    The new CBA was specifically designed to stop a repeat of Miami. Stern stepped in and stopped Chris Paul from going to LA to stop a repeat of Miami. Miami just seemed unfair.

    But Boston, those guys had suffered for it. They’d already paid their dues.

  3. Don’t forget there was a Mount Rushmore of talent put together long before the Big 3 in Boston or the Big 3 in Miami. The LA Lakers put together Shaq, Kobe, Gary Payton, Karl Malone in 2003-2004 and lost to the Detroit Pistons.

    Four years after the Lakers dropped the ball on putting together a team of two superstars with two former superstars, Boston created the Big 3 and made it work like nobody could before them. Miami followed suit shortly after, and as TLT pointed out the league has since tried to stop it from happening again. That being said, all it takes is a few unselfish players, and a state like Florida with no state taxes, and you can have yourself another Big 3 for their entire careers. Key factor is how selfish are the players and how well do they manage their careers among one another.

    I truly believe if you put Bosh back on another decent team that he would suddenly flourish again and become an all star center like he was in Toronto. Wade probably wouldn’t do a whole lot because his body is beat down and tore up. LeBron would most likely do what he did again in Cleveland, score a lot, win a lot but not win a championship. Sometimes less is more, and these guys had their bumps, bruises and growing pains, but some how they pulled it off two out of three times.

    That being said, it took one of the original Big 3 to save these Big 3 from going 1 for 3 in the NBA finals.

  4. #12 mentions this all the time – the pep rally.

    I think people forget that it was basically a glorified high school pep rally. In said rallies you say crazy stuff, because you’re with your fans. Stuff you probably wouldn’t normally say.

    I think that’s what happened. But can you fault them for wanting to win that many titles? Is that a bad thing?

  5. The Lakers Malone/Payton experiment was indeed a memorable one. On paper (that greatest of meaninglessness that seems to have meaning) they should have been great, but in reality… Malone and Payton were both broken down players that had spent years in a system that didn’t work with what LA was doing.

    Remember how many times Phil stuck Gary on the bench at the end of close games and went with Fisher instead?

    People thought that was crazy, but the truth is… at that time, Derek Fisher was the better player.

    To compare it to the Heat. Imagine the Lakers blow it up cause they lose Howard. They trade Pau for pennies on the dollar and waive Meta. They tell Kobe to take the long road to recovery and shelf him for the year. An aging and angry Nash decides he wants out.

    He didn’t leave Phoenix to carry LA through a rebuild, he wants to win. So he forces the Lakers hand and gets himself waived.

    Then he signs with the Heat.

    With Nash playing the part of Gary Payton, the media might think he should start… but in reality, at this point in time, at this place in basketball history, for this Heat team… Mario Chalmers is their Derek Fisher.

    He’s a better point guard for that team then Nash would ever be and late in big games Eric would be right to have Nash tied to the bench and Chalmers running the show.

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